The Complete Idiot's Guide

Growing Your Business With Google
By Dave Taylor

Paid for SEO but I still have PageRank 0?

Dave, I'm new to the web, paid a company back in March to register my new website with all the search engines. As I am now reading your book (Growing your Biz with Google) in August, I see that my website has a 0 page rank! does this mean that I am not even registered with "Google"? Did I get ripped off?

If you could check and see if I am even in existence with Google and Yahoo, that would be great. If not, please tell me how I can fix this problem as fast as possible, as I am currently working on a "review website" with Microsoft Front Page 2003, that I plan on using to load up with links back to my main website, and I would assume I am spinning my wheels if I am not even registered? If you can let me know if this tactic (creating a review website of various other home business opportunities) will work, I would be most appreciative! I have had my site up since March and it just sits stagnant!

Do you think this will breath some immediate life into the site? (ie: traffic?) Thanks in advance, Dave. Love the book so far! Also, when you agree to add other links to your website, where do you put them? Should I create an entire page just for links? And where is the best place to get into reciprocol linking when your site is relatively new? Does reciprocol linking work as well as building a review site? (ie: one way linking?) and lastly, how do you suggest registering a new website in the future so that I don't have this problem again?

First off, let's start out with a definition. The sandbox is where Google puts new Web sites for anywhere from one month to three months or longer; their intent is to avoid having new sites pop up out of nowhere to be top o' the page results for a specific search. It's one way that Google maximizes the quality of its SERP (which you'll recall are search engine result pages).

For people building a new site, however, this is a real drag. Buy a domain name, build a nice site, get a bunch of inbound links from other sites, and you could still be "stuck in the sandbox" for months, waiting to show up in the search results.

One way that I've found for dealing with this is to put up something, anything, related to your new domain name as soon as possible, even if it will be completely replaced by your real site once it's built. It leads to some interesting PageRank situations, of course, where your home page is ranked (for previous content, but that's okay) while secondary pages aren't ranked at all, even though they're just one click away. If you have the Google toolbar installed, check out the weird way that PageRank works at my site currently: it's exactly that situation as I write this.

But don't panic! Not having PageRank doesn't mean that you don't show up in search engine results! In fact, they're pretty much independent of each other and pages with zero PageRank frequently show up in searches, while pages with high PageRank are sometimes impossible to find in a search engine.

To see if Google knows about your site at all, you need to use the special search pattern...

Category: Google Q&A   (Article #4364)

Hello Dave,

Having PR 0 is not the end of the world, but is terrible, specially with links exchange.Yesterday my website with PR 5 changed to PR 0, i was worried, what i was doing wrong?, i spend several hours trying to get an answer, using Google, webmaster tools of Google, but nothing i found.

After of 30hours, changed from 0 to 4. Not the original 5, but worse is 0.

Now i think that PR is dinamically changing.



Posted by: Ramiro at April 27, 2007 9:09 PM

Last Six month worked for to get page rank but still its pr 0. Lots of link exchange, dirctory submission, but still PR 0

whats the reason?

Posted by: Om at March 6, 2008 12:55 AM

try to have many backlinks

you can do it by your self

by adding comments in other blogs

Posted by: joe michaels at September 25, 2008 8:34 PM

Mines the same. 5 months old and still page rank 0

Posted by: reg at October 31, 2008 10:29 AM

I think PR grows with time. Getting back links gradually works the trick.

Posted by: Raphael at June 17, 2009 5:37 AM

One technique that I have found works well for getting Pagerank is to work on getting back links from websites with related content. You can find them in Google or Technorati, if you seek blogs like this one.

Thanks for all this great information, Mr. Taylor.

Posted by: Raphael at June 17, 2009 5:40 AM

My website is 2 month old, about 50 back links, and still 0 PR. Why is it?

Posted by: vit at August 9, 2009 7:45 AM

Vit, it can depend on what area you're in and how long it took for you to start getting back links. You're in the "sandbox" now and that can last anywhere from a few weeks to a year or more. Note also that backlinks from sites like this one are not beneficial for you: my blog software automatically "nofollows" every link.

Posted by: Dave Taylor at August 15, 2009 8:34 AM

Yeah, I know about your nofollow.
I think It's strange becouse google finds my website at the first search page, with some popular "words" like "internet ads" (in russian)
How can you expain this?

Posted by: vit at October 4, 2009 2:27 AM

2 Months and 0 PR still. Google is updating the PR 2-3 times a year. So I guess it's normal.

Posted by: Mark at November 4, 2009 4:12 PM

I do have a comment, now that you mention it!

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